Tim Miller interviews Ben Rhodes, a former Deputy National Security Advisor under President Obama, about current geopolitical issues, focusing on the escalating tensions between Israel and Iran, the potential implications of Trump's foreign policy, and the internal divisions within the Republican party regarding foreign intervention. They discuss the possibility of military conflict, the complexities of the Iranian nuclear program, and the domestic political ramifications of Trump's actions, including the use of federal force and potential election interference. Rhodes expresses concerns about the normalization of political violence and authoritarian tendencies in the U.S., while also advocating for a more strategic and unified approach from the Democratic Party in addressing these challenges. The conversation also touches on the importance of domestic policy as a reflection of American values on the global stage.