In this interview, Dana Gioia explores Robert Macfarlane's deep connection to nature and his writing process. Macfarlane discusses how growing up in the mountains cultivated his sensitivity to the natural world, influencing his obsession with elements like rock, ice, water, and light. The conversation delves into Macfarlane's unique approach to writing about nature, emphasizing the use of metaphor and artifice over literal capture, and his focus on rhythm and sound patterns to engage the reader's mind on a deeper level. They discuss the importance of prepositions, the challenge of writing about speed, and Macfarlane's meticulous revision process, including his habit of collecting "qualia" in notebooks and identifying recurring images. The discussion further explores the role of wonder, the power of language, and the influence of various cultures and art forms on Macfarlane's work, as well as his hands-on approach to writing, and his preference for visceral experiences over AI-generated content.