This episode of the Modern Love podcast features an interview with director and writer Celine Song, known for her film "Past Lives" and her new movie "Materialists." The conversation revolves around the complexities of love, dating, and relationships, drawing from Celine's experiences as a former matchmaker and her observations on how people seek love in the modern world. Celine discusses the themes explored in "Materialists," where the main character, a matchmaker, struggles with her own love life despite her professional success. She also reads a Modern Love essay by Louise Rafkin, who interviews couples about their relationships while grappling with her own single status. The discussion explores the contrast between the idealized versions of love and the everyday realities of relationships, with Celine sharing personal anecdotes and insights into her own marriage. The episode concludes with an update on the essay author, Louise Rafkin, who found a long-term relationship after writing the essay.