In this episode of Fresh Air, Tonya Mosley interviews actor Benicio del Toro about his role as Zsa Zsa Korda in Wes Anderson's new film, The Phoenician Scheme. Del Toro discusses the complexities of his character, a morally ambiguous tycoon undergoing a personal transformation, and the unique experience of working on Anderson's meticulously designed sets with a talented ensemble cast. He also reflects on his early career, studying with Stella Adler, and the challenges he faced as a Latino actor in Hollywood, highlighting his breakout role in The Usual Suspects and his later success in Traffic. The episode includes audio clips from The Phoenician Scheme and The Usual Suspects, providing listeners with a taste of del Toro's performances. Additionally, film critic Justin Chang reviews Celine Song's new romantic drama, Materialists, starring Dakota Johnson.