This Bankless podcast features a debate between Jon Charbonneau and Ryan Berckmans, moderated by an unnamed host, on the distinctiveness and valuation of Ethereum (ETH) and Bitcoin (BTC). The discussion covers whether Ethereum is special compared to other Layer 1 solutions, if Bitcoin holds a unique position, and how ETH should be valued, considering if it's currently over or undervalued. Jon argues Bitcoin is the only truly special cryptocurrency due to its first-mover advantage and store of value narrative, while Ethereum must compete as a tech platform. Ryan contends Ethereum is on track to be equally special due to its neutrality and role as a global economic hub, with potential for significant growth as on-chain adoption increases. They debate the impact of regulatory environments, institutional adoption, and the scaling solutions of Ethereum versus competitors like Solana, with differing views on the relevance of discounted cash flow (DCF) analysis for valuing crypto assets. The conversation concludes with each participant sharing how they might be proven wrong in their respective assessments of Ethereum's future.