In this interview, Jordan B Peterson interviews Michael Saylor, a successful entrepreneur who became deeply interested in Bitcoin in 2020. The discussion begins with Saylor's background, including his early influences like science fiction and his education at MIT, which shaped his unique perspective combining engineering and liberal arts. Saylor recounts his entrepreneurial journey, detailing the successes and failures of various ventures, and how he eventually focused on his core business, MicroStrategy. The conversation shifts to Saylor's personal investment experiences, particularly his profitable bets on tech companies like Amazon and Apple, highlighting the importance of recognizing dominant trends. The limitations of traditional currencies and the potential of Bitcoin as a non-sovereign store of value are discussed, leading to an explanation of Bitcoin's underlying ideology rooted in engineering principles, mathematical soundness, and the desire to preserve the fruits of one's labor.
