Dr. Jordan B. Peterson interviews Michael Saylor, delving into Saylor's background, ambition, and his deep dive into Bitcoin. Saylor recounts his early career, including the establishment of MicroStrategy and his forays into various ventures, highlighting both successes and failures. He reflects on his personal investment strategies, influenced by his love for science fiction and fantasy, and how he identified the potential of tech giants like Amazon and Apple early on. The conversation transitions to Saylor's discovery of Bitcoin in 2020, driven by frustrations with traditional financial systems and the impact of COVID-19 policies. Saylor explains his perspective on inflation, the limitations of gold, and his vision of Bitcoin as a non-sovereign store of value, emphasizing its thermodynamic soundness and incorruptible ledger.