This podcast episode features Ezra Klein interviewing Salman Rushdie about his book, "Knife," which details the attack he survived and its impact on his life. Rushdie discusses the concept of shadow selves, the fatwa against him following "The Satanic Verses," and the subsequent attempts on his life and those of his translators and publishers. He reflects on how the public perception of him shifted, the challenges he faced maintaining his artistic integrity, and the broader implications of social media in creating false public images. The conversation explores themes of identity, fear, resilience, and the importance of love and family in the face of adversity, as well as Rushdie's personal journey through trauma and his determination to reclaim his narrative.