adrienne maree brown — Hope Portal, Episode 2

Krista Tippett introduces Adrienne Maree Brown, highlighting her work as an organizer, social creative, and student of complexity and change. The conversation explores the power of imagination in shaping reality and social change, referencing Octavia Butler and the concept of visionary fiction. Brown discusses "emergent strategy," drawing parallels between natural systems and human collaboration, emphasizing mutuality and reciprocity. They touch on the idea of organizing as time travel, looking to the past for inspiration and projecting into the future. Tippett shares personal reflections on transformative change and the importance of expanding our imaginative capacity to envision a more abundant future, referencing John Lewis's philosophy of living as if the desired world already exists. The episode concludes with Brown's encouragement to embrace the current era of change and create a new future.