In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway interview Steven Fulop, the mayor of Jersey City and a candidate for governor, about housing production and affordability. They discuss Jersey City's success in increasing housing stock, the challenges of building affordable housing, and the political dynamics involved in development. Fulop emphasizes the importance of market-rate housing in supporting affordable housing initiatives and addresses criticisms of gentrification. The conversation also covers broader issues such as municipal consolidation, transportation, and congestion pricing, with Fulop sharing his plans for improving New Jersey's infrastructure and housing policies if elected governor.