David Friedberg interviews Jared Isaacman, a successful entrepreneur and space enthusiast, about his nomination to lead NASA, which was later withdrawn. They discuss Isaacman's background, including his passion for aviation and space, his business ventures, and his experience as a civilian astronaut. The conversation covers Isaacman's views on NASA's challenges, the space race with China, the Artemis program, and the role of private companies like SpaceX. Isaacman shares his perspective on government bureaucracy, budget allocation, and the importance of prioritizing innovation and efficiency in the space program. He also addresses the circumstances surrounding the withdrawal of his nomination, suggesting it may have been influenced by anti-Elon sentiment within the administration.