In this episode of the Founders Podcast, David Senra analyzes a rare 1985 Playboy interview with Steve Jobs, who was 29 years old at the time. Senra highlights Jobs' views on money, his passion for his products, and his ability to place his work in a historical context, comparing the computer revolution to the petrochemical revolution and the advent of the telephone. Jobs emphasizes the importance of building tools that are easy to use and the need for companies to foster a culture that encourages innovation and attracts talented individuals, even if they are "troublemakers." Senra also touches on Jobs' early life, his relationship with Steve Wozniak, and the founding of Apple, as well as Jobs' vision for the future of computing. The episode concludes with a discussion of Jobs' insights on the computer as a guide or agent and his reflections on his own success. Senra also promotes his tool, Founders Notes, as a way to capture the essence of great entrepreneurs.