In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan interviews Jesse Michels, delving into a wide array of topics including UAPs, lost technology, AI, and ancient civilizations. They discuss the challenges of discerning truth from misinformation, especially in areas like ancient language translation and UFO research, and explore the potential dangers and implications of rapidly advancing AI, including the possibility of AI-driven deceptions and the need for regulations. They also touch on the Anunnaki theory, the simulation hypothesis, and the mysteries surrounding Mars and the Moon, and the conversation further examines the role of government secrecy, the military-industrial complex, and the potential for a breakaway civilization, and the discussion concludes with their mutual fascination with the unexplained, particularly the three-fingered mummies of Peru, and the broader implications for humanity's understanding of its place in the cosmos.