This one’s different. I sat down with my guy Jason Wilson—a bestselling author and the founder of the Cave of Adullam—to talk about what it really means to be a man. We’re breaking down stereotypes, emotional healing, why men are stuck in boxes, and why crying more might be the key to freedom.

Jason’s story is deep, and his wisdom is next level. This really challenged me.

This episode is for you.

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Chapter Markers

0:00 - Intro

0:27 - Exploring Masculinity

1:33 - Jason’s Background and The Cave of Adullam

2:24 - Jason’s Books and Media Appearances

3:17 - Jason’s Backstory

4:00 - Why Men Should Cry More

6:18 - Jason’s Personal Journey with Trauma

8:52 - Growing Up in Detroit and Hypermasculinity

13:18 - Music Career and Spiritual Awakening

17:07 - Turning Away from Secular Music

20:13 - The Emotional Impact of Caring for His Mother

24:02 - Redefining Masculinity through Tenderness

28:04 - Comprehensive Manhood: Beyond Masculinity

32:24 - The Truth About Alpha Males

36:19 - Masculinity and Comprehensive Leadership

40:22 - The Viral Video that Changed Lives

44:11 - Healing Men and Boys

46:52 - Addressing Emotional Incarceration in Men

53:00 - Evolution of Manhood and Emotional Growth

56:36 - Suicide and the Pressures on Men

59:20 - Why It’s Time to Break the Norms

1:05:55 - Overcoming the Badge of Self-Sufficiency

1:15:02 - Fighting for Emotional Freedom

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