This episode explores the funding of NPR and the impact of a recent executive order by President Trump to defund NPR and PBS. Against the backdrop of the executive order, the podcast traces the history of public radio in the US, from its early beginnings in educational college stations to the creation of NPR and its initial reliance on federal funding. More significantly, the show details the financial crisis NPR faced in the 1980s due to mismanagement and funding cuts under President Reagan, leading to a shift in the funding model where federal money was channeled through local member stations. For instance, the podcast highlights the crucial role of Jack Mitchell, NPR's first employee, in navigating these financial challenges. The current threat posed by the executive order is analyzed, focusing on the potential impact on member stations and their ability to continue airing NPR programming. Ultimately, the episode underscores the complex relationship between NPR, its member stations, and federal funding, and the potential consequences of the executive order for the future of public radio.