This episode explores the implications of Warren Buffett's upcoming retirement from Berkshire Hathaway and the company's future under successor Greg Abel, alongside a discussion of OpenAI's unusual corporate structure. Against the backdrop of Buffett's departure, the conversation pivots to Abel's operational background and potential strategic shifts, including possible spinoffs and the introduction of dividends, while also considering the erosion of the "Warren Buffett premium" on Berkshire's shares. In contrast, the hosts analyze Bill Ackman's attempt to emulate Berkshire Hathaway with Howard Hughes Holdings, highlighting the shift away from traditional stock-picking in modern finance. More significantly, the discussion turns to OpenAI's complex structure as a non-profit controlling a for-profit, questioning the sincerity of its mission to better humanity and the influence of Sam Altman's vision. The hosts also examine the role of the California Attorney General in overseeing OpenAI's actions and the implications of Altman not owning shares in the company. Ultimately, the episode reflects emerging industry patterns of corporate governance and the balance between profit-seeking and broader societal goals, as well as the state's role in overseeing organizations that claim to act for the benefit of humanity.