This episode explores the UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) phenomenon and the intersection of physics, consciousness, and intelligence gathering. Against the backdrop of Dr. Hal Puthoff's initial skepticism, his involvement in CIA-funded remote viewing experiments with Ingo Swann dramatically shifted his worldview, revealing the ability of certain individuals to perceive and interact with remote locations and shielded equipment. More significantly, the program demonstrated that this ability, while exhibiting a bell curve distribution, was not limited to a select few, leading to real-world applications like locating a downed Soviet plane. For instance, the successful use of remote viewing in locating a downed Soviet plane in Africa highlights the practical implications of these seemingly paranormal abilities. As the discussion pivoted to UAPs, Dr. Puthoff detailed his involvement in government investigations, emphasizing the challenges of compartmentalization and the potential for both benign and adversarial interpretations of UAP interactions. Ultimately, Dr. Puthoff advocates for responsible disclosure, acknowledging national security concerns while highlighting the potential for scientific breakthroughs and a paradigm shift in our understanding of the universe and our place within it.