This episode explores the complex history of Chinese immigration to America, as recounted by Michael Luo in his new book, *Strangers in the Land*. The conversation begins with Luo's personal experience of anti-Asian racism, which spurred his research into the historical context of this prejudice. Against this backdrop of contemporary xenophobia, Luo delves into the waves of Chinese migration beginning with the Gold Rush of the 1840s, driven by economic hardship and unrest in China. More significantly, the discussion highlights the contrasting perspectives of business interests who welcomed cheap labor and nativist movements that scapegoated Chinese immigrants, mirroring current immigration debates. For instance, the rise of Dennis Kearney and the Working Men's Party in the 1870s demonstrates a parallel with contemporary populist movements. In contrast, the unwavering support of Frederick Douglass for Chinese immigrants' rights stands as a powerful counterpoint to the prevailing prejudice. Ultimately, the episode underscores the enduring theme of "strangers in the land," highlighting the persistent challenges faced by immigrant communities throughout American history and the continuing relevance of this narrative in today's political climate.