This episode explores the decline of the American empire and the rise of fascism, as discussed by Chris Hedges, a journalist and Presbyterian minister, in an interview format. Against the backdrop of Hedges's extensive war reporting experience and his immersion in the Christian right, the conversation delves into the pathologies of American society, including the opioid crisis and the rise of right-wing hate groups. More significantly, Hedges argues that the deep state's dysfunction and the Democratic Party's betrayal of the working class paved the way for Trump's presidency, viewing Trump as a symptom of a broken system rather than a mastermind. As the discussion pivoted to Israel and Palestine, Hedges unequivocally labels the actions in Gaza as genocide, contrasting his perspective with that of other scholars. For instance, he highlights the destruction of infrastructure and the resulting humanitarian crisis, emphasizing the dehumanization inherent in such conflicts. Ultimately, Hedges posits that a mass mobilization of militant unions, capable of challenging the established power structures, represents the only viable path toward reversing the current trajectory.
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