This episode explores the deceleration of scientific and technological progress since the 1960s, as discussed by Peter Thiel and Dr. Jordan Peterson. Against the backdrop of rapid advancements in computing and digital technologies, Thiel argues that progress in the physical world has stagnated, citing examples like the lack of breakthroughs in areas such as cancer research and supersonic aviation. More significantly, the conversation delves into potential reasons for this slowdown, including the fear of apocalyptic consequences from powerful technologies and a societal shift towards inward focus and abstraction. For instance, Thiel contrasts the Apollo moon landing with the Woodstock festival as symbolic of a transition from outward exploration to inward introspection. As the discussion pivoted to the role of Christianity in the scientific revolution, Peterson highlights the underlying metaphysical assumptions necessary for scientific progress, while Thiel emphasizes the importance of Christian anthropology in shaping the scientific endeavor. Ultimately, the conversation concludes by examining the complex interplay between imitation, sacrifice, and the potential for both progress and societal collapse in a world increasingly shaped by technology.