This episode explores the interconnectedness of remembrance, forgiveness, and art in the context of contemporary societal challenges. Marc Bamuthi Joseph, reflecting on his experience in Washington D.C., posits that forgiveness is not merely a personal act but a crucial political one, particularly in light of events like the January 6th Capitol riot and the pandemic's impact. More significantly, he questions the role of art in fostering empathy and facilitating collective healing, arguing that societal structures should emulate the fluidity and emotional resonance of artistic expression. For instance, he uses his reimagining of Saint-Saëns' "Carnival of the Animals," specifically the "Cuckoo" segment, as a metaphor for cyclical patterns of societal trauma and inaction. The performance, incorporating dance with Wendy Whelan, serves as a powerful example of how art can address complex political and social issues. Ultimately, Joseph advocates for the intentional integration of art into societal structures to cultivate empathy and facilitate both remembrance and forgiveness, emphasizing the need for "public healing" to address collective trauma.