This episode explores the multifaceted implications of AI, contrasting optimistic predictions of rapid technological advancement with a more cautious perspective emphasizing the slower pace of societal adoption. Against the backdrop of Meta's antitrust trial, the hosts debate the government's argument of Meta's monopoly in personal social networking, questioning the strength of their case given the emergence of TikTok as a major competitor. More significantly, the discussion pivots to an interview with Arvind Narayanan, who advocates for viewing AI as "normal technology," arguing that its diffusion will be gradual, similar to past technological advancements like the internet. For instance, Narayanan highlights the importance of aligning AI systems with human values, but stresses that handing over excessive control to AI before adequate safety measures are in place would be a grave mistake. In contrast to the fast-takeoff scenario envisioned by some, Narayanan emphasizes the role of regulation and societal adjustments in shaping AI's trajectory. What this means for the future is a need for a more nuanced understanding of AI's capabilities and potential risks, focusing on near-term concerns like bias and job displacement alongside the long-term risks of unchecked AI power.