This episode explores the history and impact of the Soviet/Russian "illegals" program, a clandestine operation involving the training and deployment of spies embedded as ordinary citizens in Western countries for decades. Against the backdrop of the Soviet Union's early conspiratorial nature under Lenin, the program's unique approach, distinct from typical embassy or business cover, is highlighted. More significantly, the interview delves into the program's evolution, including the devastating impact of Stalin's purges on its operatives and the challenges faced by agents in the post-war era, such as loneliness, unrealistic mission instructions, and the psychological strain of living a double life. For instance, the story of Yevgeny Brik, who confessed his identity due to loneliness and love, illustrates the human cost of this operation. The discussion then pivots to the Bezrukov and Vavilova family, whose story inspired the TV series *The Americans*, tracing their recruitment, extensive training, and eventual exposure by the FBI in 2010. Finally, the episode examines the program's revival under Putin and the contrasting fates of the agents, some finding comfortable lives in Russia after their exposure, while their children grapple with the revelation of their parents' secret lives. This reveals the enduring legacy of this unique espionage program and its complex human consequences.
