This episode explores the transformative power of artificial intelligence and its implications for the future, featuring a conversation between Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, and Chris Anderson. Against the backdrop of OpenAI's rapid release of new AI models, the discussion delves into the potential impact on various professions, with Altman suggesting both displacement and enhanced capabilities. More significantly, the conversation addresses the ethical concerns surrounding AI's use of copyrighted material and the need for new economic models to fairly compensate creators. For instance, the discussion highlights the challenges of determining fair use and revenue sharing when AI generates content inspired by existing works. As the discussion pivoted to the competition between OpenAI and open-source AI models, Altman emphasized the importance of open-source initiatives while highlighting OpenAI's commitment to developing powerful models. Ultimately, the interview concludes with a reflection on the rapid advancements in AI, the potential risks associated with agentic AI, and the need for responsible development and governance to ensure a beneficial future for humanity.