This episode explores the impact of the Trump administration's new tariffs on the US and global economy. Against the backdrop of market volatility and uncertainty, the hosts and guest, Steve Pavlick (a principal at Mindset and head of policy at Renmac with experience in the Trump White House), analyze the current state of tariffs and their potential consequences. More significantly, the discussion delves into the administration's justifications for the tariffs, highlighting the conflicting goals of revenue generation, trade concessions, and industry protection. For instance, the panelists discuss the confusion caused by the administration's shifting justifications and the resulting uncertainty for businesses. As the discussion pivoted to the market's reaction, the hosts and guest debated whether the falling stock market weakens the US negotiating position. In contrast to the administration's claims, the panelists suggest that the global market downturn could negatively impact the US's bargaining power. The conversation concludes by examining potential metrics for evaluating the success or failure of the tariffs, considering factors such as bilateral agreements, trade deficits, and the impact on specific sectors like semiconductors and steel. What this means for businesses and investors is a period of significant uncertainty, requiring careful consideration of risk and potential long-term impacts.