This episode explores the burgeoning opportunity for startups in the ocean economy, drawing a parallel to the rapid growth of space exploration companies like SpaceX. Against the backdrop of a largely untapped and technologically underdeveloped ocean, the guest, Will O'Brien, highlights the massive existing ocean economy ($3 trillion annually) and its reliance on outdated technology. More significantly, the conversation delves into specific examples of successful ocean startups, such as Saildrone (data gathering) and Ceronic (autonomous vehicles for defense), showcasing the potential for disruption. For instance, O'Brien's own company, Ulysses, focuses on building autonomous robots for ocean tasks like seagrass restoration, achieving $1 million in revenue within its first year with only $2 million in funding. As the discussion pivoted to geopolitical implications, the vulnerability of undersea internet cables to sabotage was discussed, presenting another significant area for technological innovation. Finally, the episode touches upon the broader implications of ocean technology, including lab-grown seafood and marine geoengineering, highlighting the potential for both economic and environmental impact. Emerging industry patterns reflected in the discussion include the convergence of AI, robotics, and 3D printing, creating a new technology window for hardware-focused startups.