This episode explores the impact of President Trump's tariff announcements on the tech industry and the broader economy, featuring an interview with Brad Gerstner. Against the backdrop of the president's "Liberation Day" presentation, the discussion analyzes the market's initial positive reaction, which quickly reversed as the details of the tariffs—including a significant increase on Chinese goods and a novel calculation of "reciprocal tariffs"—became clear. More significantly, the conversation highlights the uncertainty created by these announcements, impacting business decisions and investment strategies. For instance, CEOs expressed concerns about the ambiguity surrounding the tariffs' long-term implications, hindering their ability to plan for capital expenditures and hiring. The conversation then pivots to the strategic implications of open-source AI models, particularly in China and the US, with the hosts discussing the defensive and offensive uses of open source by tech giants like Google and Meta. Finally, the episode delves into the massive funding round for OpenAI, its implications for the AI landscape, and the potential disruption of established players like Google in the search and advertising markets. What this means for the future of AI and the tech industry is a landscape of intense competition, rapid innovation, and significant uncertainty.