This episode explores the life and career of Grifter, a prominent figure in the cybersecurity world, who recounts his journey from a mischievous youth engaging in petty crime and early hacking to becoming a respected security expert. Against the backdrop of his early experiences with pirated games and bulletin board systems, Grifter details his foray into more serious hacking, including creating and selling fraudulent credit cards. More significantly, his military service provided a turning point, instilling core values that shaped his subsequent career. His involvement with DEF CON, starting as a volunteer and eventually shaping key aspects of the conference (like the Villages and SkyTalks), highlights his unique blend of technical expertise and community engagement. For instance, his experience running the Black Hat NOC showcases his ability to manage complex security challenges in a high-pressure environment. Ultimately, Grifter's story illustrates the transformative power of self-improvement and the unexpected career paths that can emerge from unconventional beginnings, emphasizing the evolving landscape of cybersecurity and the crucial role of experienced professionals in navigating its complexities.