This episode explores the challenges and opportunities presented by the integration of AI in cybersecurity, particularly within security operations centers (SOCs). Against the backdrop of increasing manual labor and burnout among security professionals, the discussion centers on Tines, a platform designed to automate security workflows. More significantly, the conversation highlights how AI is not just creating new attack vectors, but accelerating existing ones, necessitating faster response times and adaptive defenses. For instance, the use of AI by attackers to enhance phishing campaigns is discussed, emphasizing the need for defenders to leverage AI for similar purposes, such as automating threat analysis and incident response. As the discussion pivoted to the role of CISOs, the need for a balanced approach—securing AI within the enterprise while also strategically applying it for enhanced security—was underscored. In contrast to initial fears of widespread job displacement, the focus is shifting towards enhancing team productivity and unlocking creativity through AI-powered automation. Ultimately, the integration of AI within Tines' platform, particularly through its Workbench feature, aims to streamline workflows, enabling security teams to focus on higher-level strategic tasks rather than repetitive manual processes.