This episode explores the current state and future trends of the spirits industry, featuring an interview with Debra Crew, CEO of Diageo, by Nicolai Tangen, CEO of the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Fund. Against the backdrop of cyclical economic pressures and inflation impacting consumer spending, Crew highlights the industry's resilience and long-term growth potential, driven by underlying structural demand. More significantly, the discussion delves into evolving consumer behavior, particularly among Gen Z, who are moderating their consumption but are entering the spirits market earlier and exploring premium products. For instance, Crew describes the "zebra striping" phenomenon where consumers alternate between alcoholic and non-alcoholic versions of the same brand. As the discussion pivoted to marketing strategies, Crew emphasizes Diageo's focus on premiumization, expanding occasions (home consumption, third spaces), and leveraging data-driven insights from 220 million consumer occasions to create precise marketing campaigns. In contrast to concerns about health trends and cannabis legalization, Crew notes that these factors haven't significantly altered the overall industry trends. Ultimately, this interview offers valuable insights into the dynamic spirits market, highlighting the importance of adapting to changing consumer preferences and leveraging data analytics for effective brand building.