This episode explores the rise of PumpFun, a memecoin launchpad on Solana, and its impact on the cryptocurrency landscape. Against the backdrop of the memecoin sector's controversial history, marked by instances like the Slurf incident (where a developer accidentally burned LP tokens), the interview delves into PumpFun's role in expanding memecoin trading from a niche activity to a dominant force. More significantly, the conversation highlights PumpFun's success, generating $600 million in revenue by January 2024, despite the inherent risks and volatility of the memecoin market. For instance, the discussion touches upon the challenges of moderating a platform launching thousands of coins daily, acknowledging past mistakes in moderation practices and the subsequent removal of the live-streaming feature. As the discussion pivoted to PumpSwap, PumpFun's newly launched AMM DEX, the focus shifted to strategies for creating more sustainable memecoin ecosystems. The core innovation lies in creator revenue sharing, incentivizing coin creators to focus on long-term growth rather than short-term gains through rug pulls. This innovative approach, along with the integration of social features, aims to foster a more positive and sustainable memecoin environment. Ultimately, the interview reveals the complex interplay between technology, market dynamics, and community culture in shaping the future of memecoins and their potential role in the broader crypto space.