This Modern Love podcast episode features an interview with actress Natasha Rothwell, who discusses her approach to manifesting her goals through vision boarding and her experiences with "Roys"—men who fail to meet her expectations. The interview explores Rothwell's journey of self-discovery and prioritizing her own needs, referencing her role in "The White Lotus" and her own show, "How to Die Alone." Rothwell reads an essay titled "I De-Centered Men," which resonates with her personal experiences of prioritizing self-love and independence. The conversation highlights the importance of self-care and setting boundaries in relationships, illustrated by Rothwell's anecdote of walking across the Brooklyn Bridge as a self-date after a disappointing romantic encounter. Ultimately, the episode encourages listeners to prioritize their own well-being and pursue their goals independently.