This episode explores the intersection of positive psychology and motivational interviewing (MI). Against the backdrop of a post-war shift in psychology's focus from well-being to damage repair, the conversation highlights positive psychology's aim to re-emphasize human flourishing. More significantly, the discussion challenges the simplistic "positive versus negative" dichotomy, advocating for a more nuanced understanding of the full spectrum of human emotions and experiences. For instance, the guest argues that the opposite of anger might be acceptance rather than happiness. As the discussion pivoted to MI, the guest noted its inherent alignment with positive psychology's person-centered approach and strength-based perspective. The conversation further delves into the limitations of research methodologies and organizational structures in hindering authentic human connection and growth. Ultimately, the episode underscores the importance of empathetic listening, including non-verbal cues and energetic exchanges, in fostering genuine therapeutic relationships and facilitating meaningful change.