This podcast interviews Dan Gilbert, a psychologist specializing in happiness science, about why humans struggle to address the long-term threat of climate change despite readily reacting to immediate dangers. The discussion explores four key reasons: climate change lacks an agentive, intentional, or moral component; its effects are not instantaneous; humans are remarkably good at adapting to slow changes; and people underestimate the positive aspects of sustainable actions. The interview highlights research showing that framing environmental issues as moral violations or showcasing the positive aspects of sustainable choices (e.g., the satisfaction of EV owners) can be more effective than fear-mongering. Ultimately, Gilbert argues that systemic change through government action and policy is more crucial than relying solely on individual behavioral changes.