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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(01:36) How Roxanne ended up in the Army

(03:29) Career path from Army to McKinsey to founder

(04:29) The insight behind Ethena's founding

(07:11) Problems with traditional LMS approaches

(10:04) Debate on employee vs company-driven learning

(14:00) Making training relevant to day-to-day work

(15:43) Sponsor: Metaview

(17:38) The best L&D: great managers and top performers

(20:47) Learning from people vs structured courses

(22:40) Hiring a CPO at an HR tech company

(24:45) Building a culture of intellectual meritocracy

(27:27) Founders set company culture, not HR

(28:44) The expanding role of modern CPOs

(33:08) Functional leaders' accountability vs HR

(35:19) CPO as strategic partner and executive coach

(37:55) Maintaining high talent density and expectations

(41:33) Leading a female-led company with high standards

(43:16) Thanksgiving with David Petraeus

(43:54) Wrap

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