This podcast interviews Edward Fishman, a former State Department official, about economic warfare, focusing on the use of tariffs and sanctions by the U.S., particularly concerning China and Russia. The discussion analyzes Trump's tariff policies, their unintended consequences (e.g., higher prices, hurting domestic manufacturers), and the shift towards a more zero-sum global economic landscape. Fishman argues that while tariffs can be a useful tool against adversaries, applying them broadly to allies undermines long-term relationships and creates economic instability. The interview also touches upon the recent meeting between Trump and Zelensky, highlighting the complexities of international diplomacy and the potential for miscommunication in high-stakes negotiations.
