This NPR Planet Money Indicator podcast episode discusses the ongoing debate surrounding the inclusion of government spending in the calculation of US Gross Domestic Product (GDP). The episode features interviews with economists who hold differing views on whether government spending should be included, separated, or remain unchanged within the GDP calculation, highlighting the ongoing tension between using GDP as a pure measure of economic activity versus a tool for evaluating government efficiency. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick's proposal to remove government spending is analyzed, with experts arguing that existing data transparency already addresses concerns about waste and inefficiency. The discussion concludes that while improvements to GDP calculations are possible, removing government spending entirely would be counterproductive and obscure valuable data. The debate underscores the complexities of measuring economic activity and the ongoing need for transparency in government spending.