This podcast episode features Adam Grant interviewing psychologist and neuroscientist Ethan Kross about his new book, *Shift*, focusing on emotion regulation. The conversation begins with a discussion of "monkey mind" and the inner voice, exploring individual variations in inner speech and subvocalization during reading. Kross challenges common misconceptions about venting emotions and the necessity of always confronting feelings, advocating for strategic avoidance and self-distancing techniques. The discussion highlights the importance of diverse emotion regulation strategies, emphasizing that what works for one person may not work for another, and suggests using second-person self-talk as a surprisingly effective method. Listeners gain practical insights into managing emotional responses and understanding individual differences in inner experience.