This podcast episode discusses the "naturalistic fallacy"—the flawed assumption that "natural" equals "better"—in the context of food, cosmetics, and healthcare. The hosts and guest explore this fallacy through examples in China and the US, highlighting the misleading marketing of "natural" products and the lack of consistent regulatory definitions. They cite statistics on consumer beliefs about organic food and "natural" cosmetics, revealing widespread misconceptions despite scientific evidence. The discussion concludes by urging critical thinking and informed consumer choices, advocating for a balance between traditional practices and modern scientific understanding. The episode ends with a motivational segment featuring a song recommendation.