This Fresh Air Weekend episode features interviews with clarinetist Doreen Ketchens and actress Natasha Rothwell. Ketchens discusses her decades-long career playing jazz in New Orleans, her unique musical style influenced by Louis Armstrong, and her continued performances following her husband's death. Rothwell talks about her return to HBO's *The White Lotus*, reflecting on the show's themes of class and servitude, and shares her experience filming in Thailand. The episode also includes a book review of *Last Seen*, which details the efforts of formerly enslaved people to find lost family members after the Civil War. A key takeaway is Ketchens' description of her clarinet growl technique and her continuous striving for musical excellence.