This podcast episode discusses the market reaction to newly imposed tariffs, particularly focusing on the impact on tech stocks and the potential for a recession. The hosts and guest analyze the situation, comparing it to Brexit and considering the roles of the Federal Reserve and potential government intervention. They debate whether the current market downturn signals a bear market or a temporary correction, referencing various economic indicators like the VIX and the AAII sentiment survey. A new ETF focused on long-term, "granny shot" investments is also discussed, along with speculation about a potential US sovereign wealth fund and the future of cryptocurrencies. The discussion highlights the interconnectedness of economic policy, market sentiment, and geopolitical events.