This podcast features a discussion among Trevor Noah, Rutger Bregman, and Christiana about human nature, focusing on whether humans are inherently good or bad. The conversation explores this question through the lens of different societal structures and personal experiences, contrasting optimistic and pessimistic viewpoints. Bregman argues for "survival of the friendliest," citing historical examples and anthropological studies. Christiana offers a more cynical perspective, shaped by personal experiences of racism and fear. The discussion concludes with a call for redefining success and focusing on tangible actions to improve the world, rather than solely relying on awareness campaigns.