This podcast interviews Peter Baker about the contentious Oval Office meeting between Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, and Volodymyr Zelensky. The discussion details the historical context of the strained relationships, the meeting's escalating tension, and Trump's ultimately hostile dismissal of Zelensky. Baker highlights Zelensky's attempts to secure security guarantees from the U.S. and Trump's dismissive response, culminating in Zelensky's abrupt departure from the White House. The interview analyzes the domestic and international reactions, including European leaders' offers of support in the absence of U.S. commitment. The podcast concludes by questioning Zelensky's future actions and the implications of Trump's approach for U.S. foreign policy.