【聊了什么 The What】

2025年2月28日，特朗普与乌克兰总统泽连斯基在白宫举行会晤时爆发的激烈冲突。原本旨在签署一项美乌矿产框架协议、推动和平进程的会谈，却变成了特朗普、万斯严厉斥责泽连斯基的电视直播翻车事件。

这场冲突对美乌关系、俄乌局势以及欧盟安全战略都会产生深远影响。我们和《研究研究》播客的主播胖花花一起讨论了这件事件和其影响。

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【时间轴 The When】

02:24 电视直播冲突回顾

07:03 泽连斯基访美的背景和美乌矿产协议

11:50 特朗普2019年乌克兰“通话门”回顾

15:53 究竟是万斯从中作梗还是泽连斯基早有准备

19:30 野心家万斯上位

21:27 俄乌冲突近况

22:47 美国给乌克兰提供了多少援助

26:54 美乌关系降至冰点

30:05 特朗普为什么喜欢俄罗斯

33:31 俄罗斯付出的代价

36:30 欧洲各国态度的变化

【我们是谁】

美轮美换是一档深入探讨当今美国政治的中文播客。

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小华：媒体人

胖花花：《研究研究》主播

【 What We Talked About】

On February 28, 2025, a fierce confrontation erupted during a White House meeting between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelenskyy. What was originally intended as a televised discussion to sign a US–Ukraine minerals framework agreement and advance the peace process quickly devolved into a live broadcast debacle, with Trump and Vice President Pence harshly reprimanding Zelenskyy.

This conflict will have far-reaching implications for US-Ukraine relations, the Russia-Ukraine situation, and the EU’s security strategy. We discussed this event and its impacts together with Pang Huahua, the host of the “Research Research” podcast.

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【Timeline】

02:24 Recap of the confrontation

07:03 Background of Zelenskyy’s US Visit and the US–Ukraine mineral deal

11:50 Recap of Trump's 2019 Ukraine "Phone Call" Scandal

15:53 Was It Vance’s Meddling or was Zelenskyy already prepared?

19:30 The rise of Vance

21:27 Latest developments in the Russia–Ukraine war

22:47 How much aid has the US provided to Ukraine?

26:54 US–Ukraine relations hit rock bottom

30:05 Why does Trump favor Russia?

33:31 The price Russia has paid

36:30 Shifts in European countries

【Who We Are】

The American Roulette is a podcast dedicated to helping the Chinese-speaking community understand fast-changing U.S. politics.

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王浩岚 (Haolan Wang): American political enthusiast, chief writer at Lán Mù WeChat Official Account, and peddler of information

小华 (Xiao Hua): Journalist, political observer

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