This TED Talk Daily episode features workplace inclusion expert Y-Vonne Hutchinson discussing the current backlash against DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) initiatives. Hutchinson critiques ineffective DEI practices like privilege walks and unconscious bias training, arguing they are performative and fail to address systemic issues. She advocates for a data-driven approach focusing on addressing current real-world challenges like climate change, political instability, and caregiving responsibilities, which disproportionately affect marginalized groups. The podcast highlights the need for a shift from emotionally-driven to data-informed DEI strategies and offers examples of more effective training programs focusing on specific issues like anti-Semitism and anti-Arab racism. Ultimately, the episode emphasizes the evolving nature of DEI and the necessity of adapting strategies to address contemporary challenges.