This podcast features Jordan Peterson interviewing Russell Brand about Brand's recent conversion to Christianity and its implications for his life and worldview. The conversation explores the contrast between nihilism and power as unifying forces, with Peterson and Brand discussing the Judeo-Christian alternative of voluntary self-sacrifice. Brand describes his experience of finding faith as a transformative process involving the relinquishing of ego and the acceptance of a higher power. Peterson connects this to the concept of a mature self that emerges from voluntary self-sacrifice, contrasting it with the self-defeating nature of hedonism and narcissism. The discussion also touches on the changing media landscape and the rise of new forms of power and influence.
