This Lean Marketing Podcast episode features Allan Dib interviewing Louis Grenier about his new book, "To Stand the Fuck Out." The discussion centers on Grenier's approach to marketing, emphasizing the importance of deep market research ("insight foraging"), unique positioning, distinctive branding (with a nuanced discussion on the use of unconventional brand elements), and consistent outreach. Grenier argues that while marketing tactics change, fundamental principles of psychology and human behavior remain constant. A key takeaway is the concept of "triggers"—events that prompt consumers to act—and how understanding these triggers allows marketers to reach their target audience effectively, as illustrated by examples from the telecommunications and cold-brew tea industries.