Tim Ferriss interviews Rich Roll, beginning with an introduction highlighting Roll's transformation from an overweight lawyer to an ultra-endurance athlete and podcast host. The conversation delves into Roll's past struggles with alcohol, his journey to sobriety, and the tools and philosophies that aided his recovery, including Alcoholics Anonymous and the importance of addressing underlying pain. They discuss the broader applicability of addiction recovery principles, the concept of "mood follows action," and Roll's daily routines, such as Zone 2 training and sleeping in a tent. The discussion also covers Roll's career shift, his approach to managing a busy schedule, and his perspective on the importance of vulnerability and conscious decision-making in a divided world.
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