This interview podcast features Josh Brown discussing the crypto industry with Franklin Bi, a partner at Pantera Capital. The conversation begins with an overview of President Trump's recent executive order on crypto and digital assets, focusing on its implications for the industry and the potential for increased regulatory clarity. They then delve into Bi's predictions for the crypto market in 2025, highlighting three key megatrends: gateways connecting traditional finance with blockchain, the need for increased developer participation, and the shift from Wall Street speculation to mainstream adoption. Bi cites examples like Ando (tokenizing U.S. Treasuries) and TipLink (facilitating micropayments) to illustrate these trends. The discussion concludes with an analysis of the recent AI market crash and the impact of the DeepSeek large language model, emphasizing the increased uncertainty and potential shifts in the AI landscape.