This interview podcast features a conversation with Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind, about the progress toward Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). The discussion covers the current capabilities of AI models like Gemini, highlighting limitations in reasoning and creativity while emphasizing the potential of scaling and integrating planning techniques. Hassabis predicts AGI within three to five years, cautions against overhyped claims, and discusses the development of Project Astra, a universal assistant aiming for seamless integration into daily life. He also details DeepMind's work in applying AI to scientific challenges, such as mapping a virtual cell to accelerate drug discovery and identifying new materials, including the potential discovery of a room-temperature superconductor. The interview concludes with reflections on the potential societal impact of superintelligence and the need for philosophical guidance in navigating its implications.